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 | JimR
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2000-11-14 21489
Hi, I've been lurking here for a few months in preparation to buying a new compact. Ive narrowed it down to two: Kubota 2910 and NH 25 or TC29D. Both are very nice tractors. Price is close, the main difference in price being the cost of the FEL, 2910 = $2500 and 25D = $3200. But my question deals with the huge difference in the weight of the units. The 2910 only weighs about 1800# while the NH weighs in at about 2600#. To me, this is substantial...Is this a telling stat concerning the ruggedness of the two? Is the NH really that much more tractor and why such a huge difference? I'm leaning toward the NH because of this...Should I put a lot of "weight" on this stat in making my decision?Thanks for you help.jimR
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| mbjacobs
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2000-11-14 21495
I believe weight is a very important consideration, particularly in compact tractors. For most jobs these tractors are traction limited not horsepower limited and more weight translates to more traction. That said you need to be sure you are comparing apples to apples when you compare Kobuta weights to NH weights. It's my understanding that Kubota publishes "shipping" weight which does not include wheels, tires, battery, filters or fluids. This could amount to several hundred pounds. I don't know what NH does. ....
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 | Art White
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2000-11-14 21501
How much does weight mean to a tractor? It depends on where it is, if in the wrong place it could mean the tractor with the most weight can saftly handle less weight. It would mean that the tractor with less weight can climb hills better. It would mean less fuel consumption, it would mean the tractor would feel more powerful or agile and more responsive. The biggest thing to look at is where are you going to benifit and how from the additional weight with what you need to do with the tractor. ....
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| Roger L.
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2000-11-14 21504
That is such a big difference in weight that I suspect something is being reported differently. If I was concerned, I would weigh them myself. And if you do, be sure to let us know! I don't think that anyone has ever said that the Kubota was lacking for strength. By all stats that I have seen, tractors of that size tend to weigh around 2500 lbs. But that is only by the spec sheet. I've never weighed my own tractors. Now I'm wondering...... ....
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| Brady
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2000-11-14 21505
We have been a Kubota dealer for 16 years and I would wholeheartedly urge you to buy the Kubota. The most accurate weight numbers available on total unit weight are in the dealer's product and sales guide. The literature numbers could very well not account for any fluids, wheels, tires, or other options. As far as durability, we have put Kubotas in the nastiest and roughest of applications, and they have met the challenge. The competitors in our area do not have any angle to attack Kubota on, so they will sometimes mention that their tractors weigh more. However, they often fail to mention that Kubota provides an extra year of powertrain warranty, unmatched ease of operation, and fantastic parts service. Furthermore, if all our mechanics had to do was work on Kubotas, they would only have to come in about once a week. Whether the weight numbers you've seen are accurate or not, I would be much more concerned with other aspects of the product and the company behind it. Given New Holland's last five years of history, they are following down the AGCO road of joint ventures and acquisitions. I believe that Kubota's focus is one of the biggest reasons that they produce such a superior product. And, though partial, I will shoot straight with you on Kubotas. They are the best all the way around. Also, I am surpised that the Kubota is the same price as the NH because Kubota is usually a little cheaper than comparable NH and Deere models. Their price is just icing on the cake. Feel free to e-mail me any questions you might have. ....
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| KlayW in MI
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2000-11-14 21513
JimR, will you be mowing? Lighter could be better for that.
Brady, please do us all a favor and take one of those B2910's or any other model fully prep'd to the nearest scales and weight it. You could once and for all put to rest all the rumor and contradiction(sp) on the internet. Thanks! ....
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| Elkoboy
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2000-11-15 21517
One of the primary reasons I bought a Kubota B2910 instead of the New Holland TC29 was because the Kubota weighed less than the Boomer. I use my tractor primarily in the summer for finish mowing (got the 72 inch mid-mount mower) and felt that too much weight would be detrimental to my lawn.
In some applications it would be nice to have more weight (I could fill the tires but choose not to), but I have no regrets about having bought the Kubota. If you are going to be doing a lot of finish mowing, I believe weight is something to consider. If you're going to be doing a lot of loader and other utility work, you might want something heavier.
Regardless, the B2910 is a very good machine and I would readily recommend it to anyone looking for a compact utility tractor. ....
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| JimR
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2000-11-16 21543
Thanks for all the responses. I'll be using the tractor more as a utility tractor; that is why I was really studying this weight issue. The 2910 was the better handling of the two(3); but even "felt" and looked more lightweight. Truthfully, I wish I could buy them both!!! The literature I got the weight specs from were both given to me by the dealers. The Kubota just said "weight with ROPS." The NH said "shipping weight." This is going to be a very hard decision, but I too believe I'll be happy with either. It'll probably come down to price.
Brady, yes, the 2910 was a bit cheaper, but only by about a 1000 or so (this compared to the 25D, the 29D was a couple grand more). When you pay that much for something an xtra 1000 bucks seems pretty small!
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| Art White
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2000-11-16 21545
Just a thought about shipping weights. How much does the wood or steel packaging crates that they ship this stuff in weigh? ....
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| Frank R Taylor
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2000-11-16 21556
Let's try and put this in perspective. Both the Kubota and NH are good machines. The extra weight of one over the other, if it actually exists, doesn't always translate into additional "ruggedness" as the Kubota is as tough as they come. For the approximately $2,500 price difference between comparable machines you can afford to add a lot of weight to the Kubota - filled tires, wheel weights, front/rear weights, etc. Weight is one of those things that you can always add on but can't always take off - my waistline will restify to that. So, the answer would seem to pretty simple, buy the Kubota, if traction is a problem (which I don't think it will be) - add weight, save $2,500. If the cash savings isn't all that important, send check to me at ......... ....
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